Responses for General Comments

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no 7.8 IMHO, I think we are still missing the mark. City Council needs to think where they want this community to go. There should be a clear vision and planning process to articulate where you are heading. I think I articulated many years that I thought Livermore and the Tri-Valley area could become a point of destination. The first iteration of the planning with Lennar was a complete disappointment. Input from the community was not pursued, and was targeted for Millennials. A Eastside Hotel removing the existing handicap parking lot next to the Bankhead lack consideration for the elderly who in my mind is one of the targeted groups who should be living in the downtown. Even the current plans are too tactical. It should start on high with a vision like maybe "we want to become a point of destination" and then define the next layer eg We need these things. A theater, nightlife, 1st class hotel, conference center, weekend experiences, fine dining ( Michelin grade restaurant), 1st class shopping, bed and breakfast et al Then you match it with things that you already have Bankhead Theater, 1st class hotel to be built, conference center to be built,, Wineries, Michelin restaurant (missing), SF outlets, purple orchid ( 5 more still needed) et al. It is clear to me that the city hired consultants to support a "today" scenario. eg the 4000sq ft conference center is at the high end. So, we really need to look at a more downstream scenario. When Bart is completed. Larger companies will considering moving here because they have a mass transit option in Bart. These larger companies will need larger facilities to host company functions. If you don't have these facilities in place ,,,, they will simply not exist.... and they will have to do what they are doing now... going elsewhere. You need to look at whatever you design with the various personas ( people types) eg the elderly empty nesters who moved downtown so that they don't have to drive, the 2nd time visitor who wants to bring his family here, out of town lab employee looking for something to do on the weekends, a bayarea couple who does not want to travel all the way to Napa. and so forth. The experience you provide each one of these people needs to be integrated and well thought out. IMHO, it needs to be as thorough as the Steve Jobs experience. When Apple brought out the first iPod there were half a dozen companies with media players out on the market. But the iPod was different. .... it had a store where you could purchase your favorite tunes for 99cent. You can store 1000 tunes in your pocket. It was a seamless experience. You want that level of experience for each persona. For the visitor, they will be coming back again and again. For the elderly retired couple or Millennials , they can enjoy the park-like downtown and have numerous choices of where to eat or to buy those little knick-knacks for an one off project. Awhile back I was speaking to one of the council members about what I thought might be needed. He was quick to point out that each of the things I identified already existed in some form in the downtown area. This conversation was reminiscence of one I had with one of my professional peers a couple of decades early. One of his software engineers was designing software package for me. It was to replace one that we were already using. When it was done. It had the functionality of the one that it was replacing... but it was virtually unusable. It was so difficult to use. My friend told him that he needed to make it more usable. ... the newly created version was "like driving a car with a pipe wrench instead of a steering wheel" The pipe wrench works ... but is not an integrated and certainly not well thought out. The eastside solutions that the consultants like so much eliminates all the handicap parking that currently exist. Their designs for the west side lack any imagination in creating a beautiful view. One that a visitor would want to come back to year over year. Westside A is the only one with the long view… (think like Emerald Glen Park in Dublin), a performance venue in the middle of the west side. A large conference center that would address the long term needs, preserves the handicap parking on the eastside and leaves an open area suitable for market activities. 11/03/2017
yes 2.3 Would only support a hotel if it is built on the westside 11/03/2017
no 15.8 I look forward to Livermore defining the downtown space with a large green open area and a spectacular westside hotel. The westside allows for this. Living out of town, we could stay overnight after a Bankhead show. Our favorite activity, my wife and I go out to eat every other day, at restaurants. It would be nice to sit in a true green space to enjoy restaurant meals. All the other towns have outdoor seating on the street! This is the best option considering traffic and other issues. Thank you in advance for a westside hotel. 11/03/2017
yes 1.4 Please limit building heights to 2 stories and reduce housing to a minimum or eliminate housing altogether. 11/03/2017
yes 1.7 I think it's important to remember that these plots aren't the entirety of downtown. A downtown isn't a few blocks. I know that the City owns this portion of the downtown area, but second, third, and fourth street should be considered and are in need of revitalization. Sometimes I think we're trying to cram too much in this area, and it's losing focus. I understand that housing seems pretty unpopular with people, but as someone who doesn't own their own home and rents here in the City, we could certainly use more of both housing and rental units. I have a family and if we could afford it we would certainly look into a buying a home in this location. 11/03/2017
yes 2.0 I prefer the Westside A concept, because it provides: 1. The most pleasing and open layout of facilities, with open space connecting east and west sides and the tall hotel balancing the existing tall Bankhead Theater; 2. Adequate replacement parking, on-site parking for the hotel, and handicap parking near the Bankhead; 3. Less additional congestion on Railroad Ave with on-site parking for the hotel 3. A large common space with the hotel, retail, and housing directly adjacent to it, to help keep the open space occupied; 11/03/2017
yes 0.1 The downtown should be a magnet, drawing residents and visitors alike. A large community park, emblematic of the vineyards, ranch lands and ridge lands that surround us, should be the focal point of our City. In order to activate it, we need to locate a hotel/conference center, shops and restaurants and residential units on its borders. A Westside Hotel is critical if we want to celebrate a visionary town center. 11/03/2017
yes 0.1 In my view we need a West Side hotel with a large open park. Housing should not be downtown. Downtown should be a place for our Residents to come and enjoy what our town has to offer such as shopping, dining, cultural experiences and relaxation that parks and open space have to offer. A West side hotel would offer conference rooms for businesses in the area and draw newcomers to our town who might never experience the city of Livermore. They would enjoy the many existing and new retail experiences in the larger West side space. No guarantee, but wouldn't it be great if the hotel offered a restaurant that was open late for gathering and enjoying friends? Having more open space, green space, a place that can be used by all, a place to break away from the home environment, mingle with other people, is a well needed place for all our residents. Ideally, an incorporated park to bring the kids or for all just to enjoy outside space that they may not have in their own living environment. One should want to bring their town "alive" not put it into a sleepy community of more housing. It will bring more revenue for the town as people will come from all over and are here to spend time and money in our town. Imagine how many more people will have the opportunity to discover Livermore and all it has the offer and the opportunity to draw them back again to spend money in our town. To be able to share with more than our limited residents, the economic and cultural diversity that it offers. An infusion of new spenders and people discovering Livermore will benefit all of us in the long run and could lead to newcomers even moving to our town expanding our already existing residential area therefore supporting more commercial ventures. This will not happen with an alternative box hotel in a little space. Please give us the West Side Hotel proposal and large green space. 11/03/2017
no 15.8 I want a Westside hotel on the proposed Livermore downtown site. I would also like the Westside defined by a large green space from Livermore Avenue to L Street. Building a Westside hotel allows for a unique-looking hotel with the spacious green. The site is large enough that a multi-level/stair-stepped hotel will not overwhelm. Restaurants can have outdoor seating on this space. Wonderful! The green space will have future uses for expanded Artwalk, Wine festivals and large outdoor concerts we could possibly fund with future $25,000 Levitt Amphitheater grants. We will never win one otherwise. Many successful downtowns have large green space, not the ¼-acre parcel concept being pushed on us by the workshop presentation. Please, city council, be a visionary --- Westside hotel with large green space. Adding these pluses, Westside hotel and large green space, keeps Livermore wonderful. Please! I do not want a 4-story boring hotel crammed into that small space next to the Bankhead Theater. It would make me SICK every time I would see the monstrosity. I do not want to be towered over by it. An interesting one-story restaurant topped with a green space, with a parking garage behind it, also with street level handicapped parking for the Bankhead is ideal. A stair-step effect will not overwhelm the space, like the developer’s want to put a hotel there. The developer will not have to look at it, because the developer doesn’t care. The developer doesn’t live here. Everyone is pretty much in agreement about more parking and not wrecking traffic flows. I do not need to elaborate. Retail to me = restaurants. Any retail is fine. If one retail fails, another will come in or other future uses will be determined for the benefit of Livermore. Please don’t be short-sighted. You are putting up plenty of housing everywhere else. The 4-story housing proposed on the Groth Brother’s site allows for plenty more residents to walk over to the Westside hotel/retail downtown development. The 1st Street housing is a walkable distance too. The Stockman’s Association has talked about additional space for building. It is interesting to watch particular city council members who look like they want to sell-out to the developer. City council, please do the right thing and give us a unique Westside hotel with a large green space for our needs. I want to continue to enjoy Livermore. 11/03/2017
yes 2.0 I support the hotel on the westside of Livermore Ave. with more parking on the eastside to support the Bankhead, the existing merchants and a future restaurant or businesses on the corner to Railroad and No. Livermore. A parking garage to replace existing parking and allow for growth is another major priority. As is a desire for more open space. Any housing on the west side should be mixed to accommodate millennials, seniors and families. Please do not fill it with row after row of townhouses. 11/03/2017
yes 0.3 There a re relatively simple ideas to mitigate traffic impacts that have not been discussed. Two that immediately come to mind: bike friendly features that have woeked well in places like Davis and 2) designated drop off and pick up locations for Uber, Lyft and eventually autonomous vehicles, etc such as those now at Oakland Airport 11/03/2017
yes 0.7 Planning this area will greatly influence downtown Livermore's future. Having features that will attract both residents and visitors to a vibrant downtown is essential. Having a hotel on the west side with parking nearby as well as open space, retail and space for cultural events will showcase Livermore as a place we are proud to say is our hometown. 11/03/2017
yes 2.6 The eastside hotel concept seems very crowded and doesn't provide enough "life" to the larger westside area. It is important to have a large greenspace downtown for the retail, hotel and housing aspects of the plan. 11/03/2017
yes 0.2 The Hotel needs to be on the west side - it makes the most sense! 11/03/2017
yes 0.7 So much of this process has been about taxpayer subsidies for rich people: taxpayer-funded parking for rich diners, free land for a hotel for rich wine-tasters, taxpayer subsidized cultural and museum facilities. We need to focus on those who are in real need in our community. 11/02/2017
no 2401.7 The Build your own concept application doesn't work. I am unhappy the City made the mistake (again) of hiring Placeworks to provide services. Please do not repeat ever again. The number of free public parking spaces on the large parcel must increase by 20%. If this cannot be achieved, do not build the project. Repave. Any increase of stalls North of Railroad is a bad idea, since Railroad traffic needs to stop twice to accommodate; once for the cars to turn left and once for the people to cross the street. Make all possible efforts to locate a hotel on Groth Brothers property. 11/02/2017
yes 0.4 I attended several steering committee meetings and the first planning workshop. After much mulling over the issues, I was ready to put my thoughts on paper, and now discover I don't need to as they were eloquently expressed in today's Independent by Jay Davis. Kudos to Jay for highlighting the importance of economic realities and the value of getting a quality boutique hotel built on the east side of Livermore Avenue as a catalyst for development on the west side. 11/02/2017
yes 1.8 A Westside Hotel with Open Space Nearby Makes the Most Sense To Me. Why would we want to take away parking from the center point of the city, the Bankhead Plaza, that draws many, many attendees to cultural events, Evenings on the Green, performances inside the theater, etc.? Yes, the parking structure is nearby but additional parking next to the theater would help with traffic congestion and coordinating the execution of events taking place on the plaza. It is also important to have handicapped parking access for those of us attending these downtown cultural events! Practically every week day, delivery trucks drop off goods and beverages to Sauced, Last Word, Casse-Croute Bakery, etc. If there isn't access in the parking area next to the theater trucks will need to park on the street. THIS IS GOING TO CREATE A BOTTLENECK! We have never had a nice hotel in downtown Livermore. It should be positioned in the best possible location. A location that enables those staying at the hotel to walk freely about in any direction they choose to visit shops, restaurants and points of interest. This is a Westside Hotel. The other would only enable hotel visitors to walk freely across two busy streets and get a terrible view of the side of the theater building. Hotel on a corner seems so low end to me. 11/02/2017
yes 2.4 I recently visited Morgan Hill, which has around 50,000 less residents then Livermore. I was impressed with their veteran's memorial on the main street. There is also a boutique hotel being built on the main street. I had a great dinner at one of the small restaurants. I was surprised by the large number of restaurants within four blocks. I also had the good fortune to visit Ocala, FL, which has around 30,000 less residents then Livermore. I was impressed with their two downtown squares with restaurants, wine bars, shops and office space. The theaters, the Bankhead and Bothwell Center and the wineries already offer different entertainment opportunities. I look forward to a downtown space that offers more options for dining, shopping and space to enjoy our wonderful climate. Whatever is built on this site needs to be cross marketed at the wineries, businesses not in the immediate area and the outlet mall. The outlet mall is especially important as it is called the San Francisco Outlets. Many out-of-town visitors may not realize they are in the Livermore community. 11/02/2017
yes 0.8 i just read in the Independent the comments of the high school students, and it reminded me of another somewhat overlooked area.... i wish we could somehow pull in our Latino families. i haven't seen them at the meetings, nor heard any reference to them. honestly i have no suggestions, but it's heavy on my mind. thanks for the opportunity to voice this. 11/02/2017
no 1.5 The city has committed a good deal of effort into facilitating feedback from the community and those efforts are to be applauded. Considering that it was only fifteen years ago that a similar effort was undertaken and that the implementation of the choices that the citizens made at that time caused a recent uproar, the willingness to do it again is very commendable. 11/02/2017
yes 2.0 There's too many gas stations downtown. It's a waste of space. Do everything you can to keep the Donut Wheel downtown. I love the building. The restaurants are all so tiny with limited seating -- if a hotel brings more people downtown, how are they going to get a table at a restaurant? First Street and Second Street should be one way streets. 11/02/2017
no 1678.7 Housing does not belong in this area. This land is one of the oldest business districts in the city. Livermore’s perfect iconic symbol should have been allowed to keep its original location. So sad to see the years of neglect and moving of the Southern Pacific Depot under city ownership. It could have been a great museum, gallery and conference place. A “village” green should stretch from Livermore Avenue West to L Street and beyond to include M and N Streets. The area should have retail space at the street level with a hotel West of Livermore Avenue or even closer to L Street. The site must have ample parking for customers, employees, and deliveries. 11/01/2017
yes 2.8 This web site is a poor experience. It has many bugs in the concept design. Also the elements page does not take you to all the elements leading to many clicks. Its not a surprise the first 3 elements got the most concepts. 11/01/2017
yes 2.0 A hotel with appropriate architecture to fit in with the character of downtown would be a nice addition (a good example is the Rose Hotel in Pleasanton). Address the lack of parking. And, most importantly, NO RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. There's more than enough high-density housing in Livermore already. 11/01/2017
yes 1.3 This entire concept is flawed. None of these proposals solve the underlying issues. There's just too many people. "Build Houses" seems like the easy solution, but folks can only afford a house if they have a job. That means we'll have an influx of cars. "Build Parking" is the solution to the cars, but that means we're putting more strain on an already over-burdened freeway system. If you really want to do this right, put an under-ground BART station under the lot. Build a mix of park and light retail on top. Put parking above the light retail, to account for at least double the parking space of what is currently used, as well as add in 1000 spots for current BART commuters. Add 3 stores of parking to the existing lot over by the bankhead/ACE Put in 3 or 4 story condos, allocating 2 parking spots per condo. Now that we've allocated enough room for what is currently using said space as well as planned growth, we're going to need to deal with the lack of available schooling, and increase the water storage, filtration, power, and garbage infrastructure. The builder should be on the hook for all of that. 11/01/2017
yes 0.4 The City Council that helped steer the redevelop of Livermore's traffic congested Highway 84, now our tree lined First Street, has a legacy to be proud of in the success of our downtown. The present City Council has a unique opportunity and should consider the downtowns in Sonoma, Healdsburg, San Mateo, and other communities that have a large open space for the people to enjoy. This open space, with shade tress, walking paths, picnic tables, and places to sit, is an integral part of the community. The present council can choose to allow outside consultants and developers to influence their decisions, possibly to the detriment of Livermore's downtown, or listen to the people of Livermore and put the communities desires ahead of the developers. The present City Council has only one opportunity to make Livermore's downtown better. Once the land is developed there won't be another opportunity like the present one before the City Council. 10/31/2017
yes 0.2 Thank you for providing this excellent website to share our input. I look forward to Livermore having a beautiful new hotel. I hope that something like Westside A is built because I would hate to see Railroad Avenue end up like Dublin Boulevard. 10/30/2017
yes 0.5 My first thought is to list, what I think, are the priorities for the downtown and catalyst areas and build a conceptual design based on the priorities: -The downtown is in much need of a hotel and supporting amenities -Sustain the economic vitality and public interest of First Street and the Bankhead Plaza area -Additional housing, parking, and local amenities (small retail-food store-dry cleaners-etc.), small office/home office, open space) and smart access to pedestrian and vehicular traffic are needed to support the vitality of downtown. Did you see the number of cars in the catalyst area on Saturday, October 28th! I support the Eastside Hotel Concept B, with the hotel on the southeast corner of S. Livermore and Railroad Avenue. This location is based on the recommendation of the Hotel Developer and visibility coming into the gateway of the downtown area. The open space areas should include a village green integrated with a pedestrian walkway, places to sit under trees and have a bite to eat, friendly to children and seniors, and an inviting water fall or small pond. A cultural center would be an afterthought and maybe built some time in the long term plan, based on needs and demand. After all the Livermore theater, performing arts, Vine Theatre, and Carnegie Park work well today. Successful parking lots would be free, and at the busiest time of years charge a small token for use of the parking lot should be considered. For example, downtown San Luis Obispo and Walnut Creek have nice parking lots that sometimes charge a small token for usage. I wouldn't mind paying as long as I knew my car would be safe from vandalism. The revenue to the City would be a plus as well. Additional housing is an absolute must. Housing structures as shown on Eastside B and Westside B are favorable with an open and inviting concept to S. L Street. Having a walled type façade along Railroad would be ok. Pedestrian and Vehicular traffic, could be blended for smart access similar to what is shown on Eastside A, Eastside B, and Westside B parking concepts. If you make it safe and inviting to walk through the area, it will be a success. Street furniture and public lighting should fit in with the character of downtown and safety. I appreciate the city staff and city council allowing us, the time to provide input on this important city project. You have developed very comprehensive concepts and have done an excellent job sharing with the public. Thank you! 10/30/2017
yes 0.3 1) Consultants with no knowledge of Livermore have useful general input but should not be given more credibility than residents and architects with years of Livermore knowledge. Asking one consultant is like asking one politician. You can bet you got at best only one half the story! 2) The idea that the hotel “must” front on Livermore Avenue assumes that most people drive into town not knowing where they might spend the night. This might have been slightly true before google, yelp or a million similar services, but today it’s just ignorant. 3) The “iconic” view of Downtown Livermore should not be oriented towards people who will see it for 10 seconds coming into town, but so that the residents and guests in town get to enjoy it. The iconic face should be to the open space, or to the town center. Towns across the globe create their town centers to be active and interesting to the people inside the center, not to be viewed from 10 blocks away. 4) When the cost of an underground space suddenly dropped by over $10,000 just at the end of the steering committee work (with no justification from any consultants or builders), it dramatically changed the options. If the new number is real, then half-submerged parking should be almost identical in cost to regular structured parking. This can lower the overall skyline, and could create enough parking that the I-Street garage is not needed. There would be a large savings in not having to buy the land which is currently private, nor having to mitigate those industrial properties. Structured parking next to the Bankhead would work with half-below parking at the hotel and residential areas, and structured parking next to the hotel and on the south west corner. 5) Just saw a comment that suggested waiting until some other time to figure out the West Side of the site. This IS the time, and the West Side is the majority of the site. If we are just filling the small east side lot, what is the point of this whole process? 10/30/2017
yes 1.7 I attended the final workshop, and my group (at least 3 out of 5 of us) supported the west side hotel plan. I still feel that the west side is the best location for the hotel, with a lively village common area in front of it. The east side property where there is currently a Spee-dee Lube business and a parking lot would best be developed with a beautiful restaurant on the corner of Livermore and Railroad, very visible to people entering town via N. Livermore Ave. Beside and behind the restaurant should be some MUCH NEEDED parking, perhaps at least two levels, providing closer access to Bankhead Theater guests, as well as guests of other businesses in the central downtown area. If housing in downtown Livermore MUST be built, I would recommend having some at the far west end of the Lucky lot, maybe some on the east side of Livermore Ave., but only as "above businesses" housing. More than that may make for too much traffic due to new residents. 10/30/2017
yes 0.9 A city can be drowned in ticky-tacky housing. We already have some of that. San Jose--in my youth: a place of orchards--now seems treading water due to overcrowding. There's a strong correlation between crowding and crime. Of late, San Jose has had trouble recruiting police and fire personel. I think former city fathers of San Jose fell for the pitch of realtors. The realtors take the money and run. The people of San Jose are left holding the bag--obligated to extend public services to the breaking point. Bad! 10/30/2017
yes 1.4 I am in favor of Westside Plan A except for the following details: I oppose all the housing units proposed, and would like to see no or much less housing. Would like to see more open space with greenery than any of the 4 plans provide. I think the central road through the area is a mistake. This area should be free of traffic and the noise and exhaust of vehicles cutting through a restful green space. I hope the downtown area will have some display space for art, farmers market areas, museum and performance spaces, and a lot of seats with shade over them for people to enjoy relaxing. Retail should be kept to a minimum, and only around the edges, so the central open space would not be commercialized, although artisan spaces would be wonderful as an attraction for visitors and residents alike. Most important to me is a parking structure next to the Bankhead with many more handicapped spaces than currently exist in the area near the theater. The idea of a hotel there is terrible. We need many more parking spaces than any of the plans provide. Future needs will soon fill all the proposed parking. Also, some way of monitoring the use of parking spaces by people employed downtown is necessary. Currently they park for many hours, or even all day for free, taking spaces needed for visitors and residents who need temporary parking. Even metered parking would be preferable to the present situation. Finally, no eastside hotel - it is a bad idea from many angles, and would take away space needed for parking. A hotel on the west side is the only sensible idea, if we even need a hotel, which I doubt! We have many fine hotels north of 580. Only restaurants really benefit from a downtown hotel, and they are only a few minutes drive from those hotels already north of 580. I have heard about possible plans for the Downtown from developers who were not included in the original discussions of the area, and I urge the City Council to investigate and present those alternate plans before making any final decisions. Citizens deserve to hear all our options. 10/28/2017
yes 0.8 I want to see grass, fountains, grass, old brick, upscale retail, grass, fountains, upscale restaurants, lots of trees and grass. Ever consider 2nd street for parking structures? 10/27/2017
no 5.6 Housing will not attract visitors to retail and entertainment in downtown. Minimize housing, although I know is brings in revenue it also brings in children who will impact the schools. Select other areas in the downtown for infill housing such as Pacific Avenue. It may be costly to implement the best but in the long run that is the way to go because you won't get another chance down the road. 10/27/2017
yes 2.4 It seems critical that any hotel/conference space and additional parking be located on the West side of downtown to balance the pedestrian and vehicle traffic and create a downtown that has something to pull people, as it were, westerly. Likewise, more open space helps downtown become a place to be and spend time, rather than just pass through and spend money. 10/26/2017
yes 1.4 I will not presume to be an urban planner, so I will restrict my comments to advocating a cultural core downtown that combines open space with arts and sciences facilities and activities that help to activate that open space. I support a downtown center that taps into our greatest intellect and encourages our aspirations for a better future. My particular interest is a science learning center that will help both residents and visitors of all ages understand the science behind issues that affects their lives, including health, water, energy, transportation, our local economy, and the nature of our earth and universe. Although some have suggested that one of the labs might relocate downtown, my information suggests that possibility is remote. Instead, I have found great enthusiasm for a learning center that is much broader than the activities at the local national laboratories. Such a center would work synergistically with other cultural arts facilities and activities proposed by others, regardless of the specific layout of the final plan. Topical issues would be explored in a holistic fashion, both in terms of the underlying science and their impact on people. Such cultural and arts facilities would need private funding to be viable, and while it is not certain at this point, I see ample evidence that it can happen, so I recommend that the city plan include time and space for such cultural amenities to come to fruition. My specific proposal for the science portion is outlined at http://livermoresciencesocietycenter.weebly.com/. Although it is separate from the STEM center proposed for the airport, interactions to date indicate that the two ventures can benefit greatly by working together. 10/26/2017
yes 2.2 The downtown Livermore plan should have the hotel on the West side as in design plan West Side A. There is simply not enough space to accommodate the hotel adequately on the east side. Also, the hotel on the west side brings the hotel patrons in closer proximity to the businesses and to the village green. For the downtown hotel to be successful it needs to be inviting to patrons, and not crammed into a corner parcel on the East side. If too much housing is on the West side, it will not be as inviting as a PUBLIC open space. The downtown open space should feel like a gathering place for the public. Not a space mostly defined as “grounds” for the housing units there. 10/26/2017
yes 0.6 Livermore has a one time chance to enhance its already vibrant downtown. Take the time to get it right! Plan out the whole project first. Don't let unvalidated questions and assumptions about finances and timing drive decisions that may not be in the communities best interests. 10/25/2017
no 2.7 Westside A. We need pathways and paseos between First St. businesses and the old Lucky site. The two areas will complement each other. The westside hotel, with its major entrance on Livermore Ave., will act as an anchor and energize all activities in the area. Parking next to the Bankhead would serve both the westside hotel and Bankhead patrons. The important gathering space downtown should be about people, not about cars. Thinking long term, in 20 years the need for parking garages might be greatly reduced due to the growing popularity of Uber, Lyft and self-driving cars that can be summoned when needed and sent elsewhere in the meantime - just like your iRobot Roomba. Consider putting parking garages nearby, not on site. What a waste of important space that would be! 10/23/2017
yes 1.6 I participated in the last community workshop on Downtown development. A number of specific priorities developed in our group, which I share. 1. A multilevel parking structure, East of Livermore Avenue adjacent to the Bankhead. This will provide direct and convenient access to the Bankhead Theater, cinemas, etc. It will especially benefit those with mobility problems. It should be pay parking. It should clearly indicate total stalls available and also their location (see Main Street parking garage in Walnut Creek). The fees collected would provide a small revenue stream to the City as reimbursement for the privilege of using City parking and for avoiding the frustration of searching for a parking spot. Much of the street level space of the parking structure should be for retail and restaurants. 2. An open space Promenade/Plaza walkway from L street (Groth Bros housing), across Livermore Avenue and through to the theater plaza. Retail/restaurant/coffee shop space to the south would help define the Promenade and serve pedestrians and residents. Public restrooms would be a comfortable addition. 3. The proposed hotel is a must. It would be west of Livermore Avenue. Its design should complement the Promenade/Plaza. Thus it should provide easy access to and from the walkway so that the hotel and its facilities – restaurants, meeting areas, etc. – are an integral part of our Downtown experience. 4. Multifaceted mix of housing – town house, apartments, flats, work studios, co-housing - often above retail/restaurant space. Such a mix would help attract a diverse population of Downtown residents.. We hope that these priorities are considered carefully. Clearly Westside Hotel Concept A is the vision plan that comes closest to satisfying these priorities. We all will benefit, as citizens of Livermore, from the civic enhancement of our Downtown. We also hope that the Mayor and Council, as they make their decisions, will not rely too heavily on the opinions of experts. As presented at the workshop, many of the findings of these so-called ‘experts’ were obsolete, irrelevant and even spurious when applied to our City and to our vision for its future. 10/24/2017
no 28.3 Downtown Livermore has established a fabric of smaller scale open space and pedestrian friendly streets. The new development must balance the proforma financial requirements with the human scale that encourages a pedestrian scale at street level. Traditional parking standards for residential units should be relaxed to reflect decreases in auto ownership. Short term surface parking should be provided for retail, commercial and other uses. The hotel parking should be shared with other structured parking. The elevations and massing of residential scale should be broken up with horizontal banding, balconies and other elements intended to break up large plain facades. 10/23/2017
yes 1.3 My husband & I were a bit frustrated with the Oct. 10th Livermore downtown community workshop. Really wish we had a lot less talk from the speaker so we could have more time to share ideas, compromise, & properly develop a plan. One particularly dominant individual drew our map; hence, several ideas were not adequately represented. While open to an eastside hotel IF DONE RIGHT, I ultimately think westside is best. Here's why, & a few other ideas: 1.) First, my husband prefers to not have a hotel downtown. 2.) Second, if we must have a hotel downtown, a westside hotel would serve as a central ANCHOR, since the Lucky block is most centralized. (First Street Alehouse is an anchor business). 3.) WESTSIDE A plan is best, but add more grass in "village green", or tan decomposed granite (as opposed to concrete), depending if city allows skateboarding in area, & if environmentally friendly landscape; include wheelchair/stroller accessibility. Science, history & art. Family/pet/senior-friendly. Checker/chess tables. Bistro seating. Shift hotel more to center of Railroad Ave. side of lot -- with additional L St. entrance/exit -- to balance traffic & avoid overshadowing Blacksmith Square. THINK: What corner & skyline views should greet people as they drive into town? 4.) While spending so much time, effort, & money to bring in more tourists/non-residents, don't alienate Livermore residents with too many high-end businesses. Maybe a cheese/charcuterie shop, bike rentals, specialty running & outdoor shop, Italian deli (Genova, anyone?), See's &/or other candy shop, book shop, unique gifts,...retail & dining establishments that reflect Livermore character. 5.) Get ideas from other successful hotels, like elegant Portola Hotel & Conference Center in Monterey (recently renovated), & quirky Hotel Zephyr in SF near Pier 39 (outdoor shuffleboard, life-size Connect Four & Jenga games, fire pits). Check out portolahotel.com & hotelzephyrsf.com for inspiration. 6.) Western & wine country themes -- rustic, simple, natural elegance (but NOT like the Hilton Home2 Suites by Costco -- too boxy & boring). Again, something with Livermore CHARACTER. 7.) An arch (like in Pleasanton), or skywalk across Livermore Ave. that says "Welcome to Livermore" (like the red "Monterey Canning Co." walkway on Cannery Row). 8.) Eastside hotel would most likely create a cramped, urban feel. 9.) Say it with me: AFFORDABLE HOUSING. Residential units should be few, & complement the hotel, not overpower it; hotel should stand out as main focus. 10.) Keep having workshops, get community input, refine those plans! Let's get it right the first time. Thank you, Tania Panarello Livermore 10/23/2017
yes 1.3 Hello- my husband and I joined the walking tour on Saturday am.. again Thank you for giving residents ample opportunities to see what is planned, give imput etc. I also previously attended a workshop. One of the things that came up on our walk, was a comment that of the said 625 or so parking spaces (don't quote me on the number -that isn't the point.) that would be displaced from existing locations in the redesign, an EXACT amount would be placed back in via parking structures, etc. The issue here is there is NOT enough parking even right now, so for a new design to not have Additional public parking would not fix the current lack of parking issue. That could be issue, mainly because if additional public space opportunities are in the plan (open space, cultural /gallery site, etc) where is the additional traffic to park. Not only that.. there is an expectation, that even though any residential that is being built will be responsible to provide their own parking, we all know there are always more 'resident's and cars' then usually allotted. 1 parking spot per unit will never cover it and you know the other 2-3 residence will be parking overnight, weekends on public locations. Please keep this in account when requiring your residential developers, or public access parking is being planned. Also just a side note.. although we have not heard anything about 'paid public' parking.. please note and understand the assumption is all public parking downtown will stay FREE. - again Thank you to your team and the city officials for again giving us the opportunity to be involved. 10/23/2017
yes 0.9 I very strongly support a WESTSIDE hotel. I like both plans. 10/22/2017
yes 3.4 Please do not add housing to downtown. That is going to make downtown somewhere I want to go less. I like the idea of absorbing the $14.5 M debt as a small property tax paid back over 10-20 years. Then we could use this space to enhance downtown. We could have green space, more retail, and some parking. Please do not add a hotel and housing to pay off a relatively small debt we owe to ourselves. 10/22/2017
no 1432.9 I don't understand the draw (other than financial) to attract so many visitors to Livermore. The priority should be for those who live here. Do not try and inundate Livermore with lots of people and lose the small-town character of Livermore. I realize growth is inevitable but control it rather than encourage it. Figure out how to expand the changes already made in downtown Livermore and expand them south to Carnegie Park where a beautiful open space exists. 10/21/2017
yes 1.3 I finally made it to Aviation for a hamburger. It was a beautiful night and the view was stunning. It would be great to include whole series of rooftop public open spaces throughout this entire area. It would be great to have plazas over the parking garages and hotel and other buildings - maybe even connected in a skywalk of sort (Something like the High Line park in New York City.) Having a vision for the "above part" of the town center as well as below could make this space extraordinary and unique and open up some really great possibilities for showcasing Livermore. 10/19/2017
yes 2.4 I am writing about new housing, apartments, condos, town houses, etc. that I see going up, filling in empty lot areas, etc. I do not object to the designs, as some do. I am just concerned that so many I see are multiple stories, making it impossible for the elderly or disabled to live in them. We live in a large single family home currently, but I hope some day to retire to a condo in Livermore (smaller and without a yard,) but I am dismayed to see no single story ones or ones with elevators being built! I know builders can get more money for the larger units, but let's build things that senior citizens and the disabled can safely live in! I want to stay in Livermore! Thanks! :) 10/18/2017
yes 1.4 Do any of the existing plans preserve the Casse-Croute Bakery? This is one of the bright spots in dowtown Livermore and must be preserved. 10/18/2017
no 3.0 I believe the hotel should be on the WEST side of Livermore Ave. due to space and traffic congestion. The East side is too small and would eliminate most, if not all, above parking for the offices south of the Bankhead and the Bankhead itself, and handicapped parking for the Bankhead Theatre. Also, trucks delivering to an East side hotel would be not only disturbing the hotel guests, who someone said the deliveries only deliver in the wee hours of the morning, however the Ale House say they deliver throughout the day. If the hotel is on the west side there wouldn't be as much room for more high density housing and more room for open space. Another concern I have is the VERY LONG explanation from David Early, hired by the City, at the beginning of each workshop. By the time he is finished most of the attendees are finished with the whole precess. About 1/3 of the people present at the Aahmes center left. They were simply exhausted. We all were. It was simply too much information that was not critical to our own opinion on the project. If the workshops start at 7pm and Mr. Early speaks for an hour, most people are not interested and need to go home to be able to put children to bed etc. and prepare for the next work day. And, how can Mr. Early not be impartial if he is hired by the City? Much information about the paying back of the loan and interest on the site was left out! No matter the number of parking spaces counted in and around downtown there isn't enough during busy hours. I wouldn't want to walk in the dark to or from the Bankhead Theatre or restaurants from 2nd, 3rd, or 4th, Maple St. streets, possibly in the rain in the winter. Less dense housing downtown, more open space, and MORE parking, PLEASE! 10/17/2017
yes 4.3 I attended the last meeting which was a walking tour of Downtown. It was lead by Mr. Early, (I think). It was a very informative tour and the leader was receptive to the comments by the attendees. At the end of the tour, the leader said, "What to you think if the backs of these shops and restaurants (the ones facing First Street) were made to look like the fronts of the restaurants. I think that is a great idea! I would like to add that, if that were the case, then the area immediately facing those restaurants, should not be a parking lot as proposed, but instead a lovely, landscaped open green space, so the customers would have a nice view from the outdoor tables. The green space could run from South L Street to a Central Town Square located further east, but always alongside and adjacent to the downtown, mostly pedestrian area. (I will post a design of this plan.) The main idea is to keep the pedestrian areas of the development next to the current pedestrian area of First Street, making a large, enjoyable area for the Livermore residents to enjoy. Furthermore, on the opposite side of the green space, the new housing could be constructed facing back toward the green space and the downtown. The housing would hopefully be handsomely constructed to add to the beauty of the area and the view from the restaurants and shops. Plus, if the housing were placed alongside the green space, then the children and adults living there would have a nice, open area to enjoy. Then the more unattractive constructions, such as the parking garages should be constructed further away from the downtown area and placed on Railroad avenue. And the road that is necessary to build on the development should run behind the housing. There would only be a small service road only between the restaurants and the green open space. The green open space would have a wide, winding sidewalk through it, leading to the central plaza. The area could have many uses, such as for a farmer's market, art shows, small vendors, and other public use. Thank you very much for your consideration, Helen Nelson 10/15/2017
yes 2.6 I have a rough 3D concept that I created. It helps show what a downtown concept might look like. You can view it here: https://www.kubity.com/p/Lf2TLT 10/12/2017
yes 0.8 The future of Livermore’s downtown development has evolved primarily into a decision of where to build the hotel—on the east or west side of South Livermore Avenue. My husband and I believe the west side, on the larger plot of land between L Street and Livermore Ave, is the better choice—and specifically, Westside, Concept A. It would allow the hotel to be the centerpiece of the new development with attached open space that would welcome both community members and onsite residents. It would still provide plenty of housing and parking, but, more importantly, it would keep the acreage from becoming an uninterrupted expanse of that housing and parking (cf. Dublin). We can see no reason for squeezing the hotel onto the small plot of land on the east side of Livermore Avenue. The lack of sufficient parking space, the view of the wall of the Bankhead Theater, and poor access for delivery trucks continue to undermine the appeal of that location. Some supporters of an east side hotel believe that it would provide an “iconic” entrance into downtown Livermore and attract tourists. We really don’t think tourists roll into town looking for a hotel nowadays; people make their reservations online before they arrive. And why couldn’t a west side hotel be just as “iconic”? Our votes are for Westside Concept A. 10/10/2017
yes 1.4 There are two factors that will make Downtown less accessible to East Livermore residents and will negatively affect current businesses. First, plans that complicate traffic at Livermore and Railroad or Maple and First . Second, plans that reduce parking in the plan area. An Eastside hotel will definitely complicate traffic, and too much housing will reduce parking. Maintaining a friendly and accessible downtown is more important than maximizing city revenue. The Westside Hotel B plan is closest to what I would like to see. 10/06/2017
yes 0.3 I have been invested in downtown Livermore for more than 25 years. As a matter of fact my property was taken from me under threat of eminent domain. I wish that that could have been avoided but I guess the idea is that what is good for all is good for the individual. The city treated me fairly. My comment is this: Please consider designing a sunken park area. My idea is that it be round and be designed with a play area at the bottom in the center and have concentric levels of wide cement stairs rising from the bottom. The stairs can be used to walk down to the play area and also people can sit on the stairs and have food and drink. That way our downtown restaurants can have more take-out food sales and the adults, whether they be parents, grandparents, or any other person responsible for the kids can sit and relax while the kids play. The idea would be that since it is circular the adults would be able to observe the children from any and every angle in order to be able to keep an eye on them. I also think that because it would be sunken it would be space saving as the space taken up would be vertical and horizontal as opposed to only horizontal. I think we have the people talented enough to create this and it would add another unique facet to our downtown; much in the vein of the Lizzie Fountain. 10/06/2017
yes I do not understand the need for housing in these plans. If I understand correctly, the Groth brothers site will be high density housing. If that is the case why do we need more housing in this phase? If It is for funding part of the project, I understand. But then there is a conflict of interest as witnessed by the Lennar plans. My feeling is that we need to maintain the parking, if not increase, and just make it a place that is comfortable and safe. 10/04/2017
yes 0.6 I'm interested in: - a hotel - I have no preference where it is located and defer to those who have studied this closer ... whatever works best. I would like to see some block of affordable rooms, e.g., govt. per diem. as a former Sandia employee, I know Lab visitors would stay downtown if rates were right. meeting and conference room space would desirable as well. - retail space - esp. restaurants, cafes, an independent bookstore would be wonderful. - residential 1-2 bedroom apts. which would mostly be rented by people who like living downtown, as opposed to suburbs. - parking -- the dusty gravel lot has been there so many years that I have friends who hate to see anything built on it for fear of losing parking! so some reasonable parking solution is fine with me. - green area -- I don't need a lot of green space - just so it's pleasant to walk around esp. after dark with lighting, some benches; cafe tables would be nice too to bring a lunch outside. - cultural arts -- I'm a volunteer with Livermore Shakespeare, Encore Players, and in the past, LVO. so I support an arts presence - a gallery, an open space for performances during special events. I walk everywhere I can in Livermore - especially to the Vine, restaurants, coffee cafes, Trader Joe's, etc. I prefer urban living. People who live in this new area or stay at the new hotel are the ones who will shop and eat downtown. 10/03/2017
yes 2.2 I went to the October 2,.2017 workshop at Granada. I am most impressed with the work, thought, and community interaction. What an amazing process. Great job Livermore. My table had different ideas in the detail, but common wishes for the overall. Parking, green space, good flow of pedestrians and cars. The first placement we agreed on was the east side placement of the hotel, which send to be the main issue. We felt that we don't want the hotel, that us locals will not "use", dominate the big space on the west side. We also liked the proximity to the Bankhead for conferences, presentations, and attending concerts, etc. The main thing I walked away with was open space use (green/nature) was important to all. I felt that regardless what the final outcome will look like, it will be a wonderful addition to our fantastic downtown, and I greatly appreciate to have been given the information and input so I feel part of this process. Thank you. 10/03/2017
yes The general plan provides for the important things such as parking, open spaces, and retail. However, what is not needed is a hotel, cultural/musem, or downtown housing. 09/27/2017
yes was not able to submit concept. There was no submit button. just a print button. 09/27/2017
yes I know the planning process is trying to reach out to young people, underprivileged people, renters, and the rest of the demographic that doesn't usually come to meetings or pester city hall. You should be transparent in the end of these feedback collection effort about how successful you were in collecting feedback from the different demographics of Livermore. If the plans are being dictated only by retirees and homeowners, at least be honest about that. 09/26/2017
yes A 2-acre west side village green surrounded by a boutique hotel, retail and some housing. Hotel on the west side with self parking underneath the hotel and valet parking not required. Retail including an artisan market, restaurants, art gallery around the village green. Co-housing with small affordable units and not taller than 3 stories including parking on surface level. Public parking garage on the west side and surface parking under residential and hotel. Conference center as part of the hotel to have more support for the retail. Plan the whole area and do what is best for Livermore and it residents and not do what is just easy or quick. East side have a restaurant on the corner with a science center and offices on upper floors. Parking garage with more regular and handicapped parking for the patrons of the theaters, restaurants and businesses on the east part of downtown. 09/24/2017
yes As a home owner (and resident of 22+ years) in the downtown neighborhood I would very much appreciate the ENFORCEMENT of the posted SPEED LIMITS. The overall reduction in speed and improvement of traffic flow within the area. The downtown is home for many of us. Please consider this fact when adding to the traffic on our surface streets. Pedestrian/public transportation friendly shopping, dinning & entertainment areas with open spaces would be a win. 09/22/2017
yes Downtown should be an attraction. Retail and restaurants are what will draw people to downtown and making those amenities easily accessible through ample, free, parking and reasonable traffic, should be a priority. Livermore has already been on a building boom of higher-density housing outside of downtown and I don't have a desire to see that spread further to downtown. 09/22/2017
yes Westside Hotel Concept A (MODIFIED) I LIKE WESTSIDE HOTEL PLAN A + MINOR CHANGES I like the West Side A Plan. But I would urge we use a Master Developer to implement such a plan and the Master Developer be given more flexibility as to the type of residential uses actually being built. OPEN SPACE THAT BRINGS YOU BACK Keep lots of open space and wide sunny alleys on the residential component. Keep down the housing density and limit height to 3 stories. Allow the Master Developer to enjoy more flexibility as to choosing market rate residential housing components. Notice site plan changes that wide three areas and moves one of the South L entries 10' North to allow for landscaping and walks on both sides of the entry. WESTSIDE PLAN A OTHER ADVANTAGES Views from hotel rooms will be very good since hotel is not jammed up against the Bankhead with limited views; There is ample on-site parking while eastside hotel only provides half the parking required Westside parking also provides parking for handicapped and regular needs overflow from the east side and more parking servicing for east businesses and the Bankhead FLEXIBILITY RECOMMENDED Co-housing is a movement without a great number of followers and very hard to implement and will probably prove to not have sufficient effective demand in the market place to justify fronting the investment. There are example around the SF Bay Area in Oakland, Richmond, and Marine County. Co-Housing is a group of residents sharing key areas like Kitchens, Living Rooms or Family Rooms and Dinning, with the participants taking turns doing cooking and other chores mutually agreed upon. Give the Master Developer freedom to retreat to housing types that the Master Developer is willing to do. But press for a larger Conference Center of at least 4,000 sq.ft. multi-purpose center. The large green belt and hard surface pedestrian walks through Plan A Westside, are excellent and will be energized with the West Side Hotel. It also integrates the old Groth Brother high density housing and pulls it into use with the downtown. I'd also like to see the Master Developer developing the Hotel, to be allowed to use more of the land if the Master Developer chooses, for hotel uses and parking especially with a 4000 foot conference center. CONFERENCE CENTER I would like to see also a little pressure put on the Hotel component to provide 4000 sq.ft. multi-purpose conference center. Also since the city's research shows no demand for additional retail, I would again like to give the Master Developer flexibility to designate retail space as optional residential market rate space if the Master Developer so chooses. While no Master Developer has been selected, the city council has been introduced to a master developer with funds prepared to build the hotel and work with the City and the Community Group and other vested interests to bring the parties together around the West Side Boutique Hotel his company would develop. The parking distribution on the West Side Plan-A looks good and will reduce traffic congestion during peak use hours. INTERIOR ROADS I much prefer the curved drive perhaps with speed bumps over the straight through road. Move the South L Street Entry Road North 10' and provide landscaping and walks on both sides of the entry road and shown on my MODIFIED Westside Plan A. RODEO ASSOCIATION CONTRIBUTION Finally it should be noted that there is a deal available from the Rodeo Association that would relieve much of the housing requirement off the downtown property and transfer residential building placement over to city hall grounds onto unused land. Historically the City Hall was our old Rodeo Grounds. When the Rodeo Association transferred the property to the City it carried a deed restriction that the Rodeo Association has publicly offered to remove for the token recognition, much deserved IMHO, that the open space parkway, pedestrian center such as the West Side Plan A satisfies, that there be a formal dedications plaque-art work-statue memorializing the Rodeo Association's historic and current contribution to the community, which seems most reasonable to me. The importance of this is that it helps satisfy housing obligation the wisely rejected Lennar Plan was helping to pay off. 09/22/2017
yes I prefer the east side hotel concept and the housing units in concept B. The housing units have nice diversity and are well placed on the lot. Parking is in a good location and doesn't dominate the area. There seems to be plenty of green space. This is a very big area, and I'm not sure people can visualize how much is given to walking and park spaces. I like the location of the live-work units, which can make an interesting zone. 09/21/2017
yes As part of the open space and retail concept, I'd really like to urge you to consider a large open air market so downtown residents and hotel visitors can do a majority of their grocery shopping on foot. It would help alleviate traffic and would be a great space for our farmer's market year round. Open air markets are huge vibrant draws for local chefs, musicians, artists, and residents alike. An open air market would be a signature piece for Livermore that visitors would never forget. 09/21/2017
yes I am trying to use the Concept Designer to emplace buildings that are retail at ground level and townhouses above, such as I see in Dublin, but I am unable to make the design software do what I want. It looks like I should be able to edit levels 1 and 2 separately, but on my computer I cannot accomplish this. I get a design for level 1 and then it is used, against my wishes, for level 2. Or vice versa. I want to edit these separately and have them individually saved, but that is not what I get with my computer operating system, an iMac. 09/19/2017